Comments on: Word Arsenal http://kylekratky.wordpress.com/2008/08/15/word-arsenal/ administrating, penetrating, defenstrating, litigating, and blogging. Oh blogging. Mon, 17 Nov 2008 22:51:01 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: societyvs http://kylekratky.wordpress.com/2008/08/15/word-arsenal/#comment-32 societyvs Fri, 15 Aug 2008 20:49:11 +0000 http://kylekratky.wordpress.com/?p=41#comment-32 Sorry Kyle - I am on facebook though (lol) Sorry Kyle – I am on facebook though (lol)

]]> By: Kyle Kratky http://kylekratky.wordpress.com/2008/08/15/word-arsenal/#comment-31 Kyle Kratky Fri, 15 Aug 2008 19:46:52 +0000 http://kylekratky.wordpress.com/?p=41#comment-31 No, for real. You guys should get email addresses. Or a forum. Or a messaging program. Or use facebook. No, for real. You guys should get email addresses. Or a forum. Or a messaging program. Or use facebook.

]]> By: SocietyVs http://kylekratky.wordpress.com/2008/08/15/word-arsenal/#comment-30 SocietyVs Fri, 15 Aug 2008 19:34:13 +0000 http://kylekratky.wordpress.com/?p=41#comment-30 "She didn’t discuss the issues, she put Mike in a box and had a field day" (Brad) Possibly, I like Mike personally - he seems like a genuinely good dude (for that matter everyone on the COAS site). I think if MIke does feel any disrespect the best thing to do would be to discuss it with Yael and try to work it out. “She didn’t discuss the issues, she put Mike in a box and had a field day” (Brad)

Possibly, I like Mike personally – he seems like a genuinely good dude (for that matter everyone on the COAS site). I think if MIke does feel any disrespect the best thing to do would be to discuss it with Yael and try to work it out.

]]> By: Brad http://kylekratky.wordpress.com/2008/08/15/word-arsenal/#comment-29 Brad Fri, 15 Aug 2008 17:46:13 +0000 http://kylekratky.wordpress.com/?p=41#comment-29 Kyle, See what you opened yourself for? lol.... I'm glad the reading went well! Hannah and I were going to try and make it, but when we realized it wasn't a Kyle Kratky original, we weren't quite as excited and watched the Olympics instead. SVS, Dude. Come on. Mike has ever only had a deep appreciation for Judaism (his heritage), and was trying to have an honest conversation about it. There is no way that kind of ad hominem, sarcasm, or flippancy was appropriate. She didn't discuss the issues, she put Mike in a box and had a field day. We've had pretty heated conversations with others who disagree with us (i.e. De-Conversion, where it has always been respectful), but there is a mutual respect and accountability that needs to be afforded by both sides for constructive conversation to be possible. Kyle, I promise COAS will pull out of South Ossetia, and return to pre-conflict positions. No, really. ;-) Kyle,

See what you opened yourself for? lol…. I’m glad the reading went well! Hannah and I were going to try and make it, but when we realized it wasn’t a Kyle Kratky original, we weren’t quite as excited and watched the Olympics instead.

SVS,

Dude. Come on. Mike has ever only had a deep appreciation for Judaism (his heritage), and was trying to have an honest conversation about it. There is no way that kind of ad hominem, sarcasm, or flippancy was appropriate. She didn’t discuss the issues, she put Mike in a box and had a field day. We’ve had pretty heated conversations with others who disagree with us (i.e. De-Conversion, where it has always been respectful), but there is a mutual respect and accountability that needs to be afforded by both sides for constructive conversation to be possible.

Kyle,

I promise COAS will pull out of South Ossetia, and return to pre-conflict positions. No, really. ;-)

]]> By: Kyle Kratky http://kylekratky.wordpress.com/2008/08/15/word-arsenal/#comment-28 Kyle Kratky Fri, 15 Aug 2008 17:22:12 +0000 http://kylekratky.wordpress.com/?p=41#comment-28 Ahhhhh, Confessions of a Seminarian is invading my blog! I kid. Brad, the reading went really well. Thanks for asking. Ahhhhh, Confessions of a Seminarian is invading my blog!

I kid.

Brad, the reading went really well. Thanks for asking.

]]> By: societyvs http://kylekratky.wordpress.com/2008/08/15/word-arsenal/#comment-27 societyvs Fri, 15 Aug 2008 17:22:09 +0000 http://kylekratky.wordpress.com/?p=41#comment-27 "On a more extreme example, you should click over to SocietyVS blog and see how Mike got verbally abused for simple disagreement " (Brad) It's an interesting take on the scenario - I will admit Yael does not mince words. But Mike was making some claims about the Jewish faith (which she is a part of) that seemed a little off basis (trying to tell someone that is part of the Judaic faith what the Judaic faith is all about). I can see why she sees the need to get sarcastic and a bit on the strong worded side - maybe she feels some mis-representation? “On a more extreme example, you should click over to SocietyVS blog and see how Mike got verbally abused for simple disagreement ” (Brad)

It’s an interesting take on the scenario – I will admit Yael does not mince words. But Mike was making some claims about the Jewish faith (which she is a part of) that seemed a little off basis (trying to tell someone that is part of the Judaic faith what the Judaic faith is all about). I can see why she sees the need to get sarcastic and a bit on the strong worded side – maybe she feels some mis-representation?

]]> By: SocietyVs http://kylekratky.wordpress.com/2008/08/15/word-arsenal/#comment-26 SocietyVs Fri, 15 Aug 2008 17:13:34 +0000 http://kylekratky.wordpress.com/?p=41#comment-26 I actually like what you have to say concerning the 'will of God'. It's a very tricky theological subject - that is for sure. I am not sure we can know the mind of God neither - like you mention - 'it is a God'. I feel some humility in a stand like that personally - it seems like a very reasonable thing to say. What you need to remember is when contending with this issue - some people might hold to an idea 'we can know God's mind' - since they have the scriptures and what have you. I do not neccesarily stand in that camp altogether - namely when it comes to personal experiences. I tend to think we can learn from suffering - and it can go either way for us - for the good in life - and for the not so good in life. Pain has a way of awakening our senses to deal with certain issues in life (ex: mortality). I actually like what you have to say concerning the ‘will of God’. It’s a very tricky theological subject – that is for sure. I am not sure we can know the mind of God neither – like you mention – ‘it is a God’. I feel some humility in a stand like that personally – it seems like a very reasonable thing to say.

What you need to remember is when contending with this issue – some people might hold to an idea ‘we can know God’s mind’ – since they have the scriptures and what have you. I do not neccesarily stand in that camp altogether – namely when it comes to personal experiences.

I tend to think we can learn from suffering – and it can go either way for us – for the good in life – and for the not so good in life. Pain has a way of awakening our senses to deal with certain issues in life (ex: mortality).

]]> By: Brad http://kylekratky.wordpress.com/2008/08/15/word-arsenal/#comment-25 Brad Fri, 15 Aug 2008 17:03:51 +0000 http://kylekratky.wordpress.com/?p=41#comment-25 Oh and no worries, we're not going to get all up in your bidness like Russia on Georgia. BTW, how did your reading go Monday night? Oh and no worries, we’re not going to get all up in your bidness like Russia on Georgia. BTW, how did your reading go Monday night?

]]> By: Brad http://kylekratky.wordpress.com/2008/08/15/word-arsenal/#comment-24 Brad Fri, 15 Aug 2008 17:02:41 +0000 http://kylekratky.wordpress.com/?p=41#comment-24 hahaha.... you've got a really good point Kyle. I know Chris somewhat and I can assure you that he at least did not intend to do so. Like you said, maybe it is subconscious. He's a philosophy grad on his way to Princeton to study theology/philosophy on the master's level. For him, words are an artistic medium. He leaves me in the dust rhetorically, but I know him well enough to know that he just comes off that way. I can totally see how you could hear it as such, though. On a more extreme example, you should click over to SocietyVS blog and see how Mike got verbally abused for simple disagreement (the commentor's name is yaelbatsarah). It is definitely a more direct and extreme example of what you are talking about.... http://societyvs.wordpress.com/2008/08/13/on-the-quest-for-expertise/#comments hahaha…. you’ve got a really good point Kyle. I know Chris somewhat and I can assure you that he at least did not intend to do so. Like you said, maybe it is subconscious. He’s a philosophy grad on his way to Princeton to study theology/philosophy on the master’s level. For him, words are an artistic medium. He leaves me in the dust rhetorically, but I know him well enough to know that he just comes off that way. I can totally see how you could hear it as such, though.

On a more extreme example, you should click over to SocietyVS blog and see how Mike got verbally abused for simple disagreement (the commentor’s name is yaelbatsarah). It is definitely a more direct and extreme example of what you are talking about…. http://societyvs.wordpress.com/2008/08/13/on-the-quest-for-expertise/#comments

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